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ESG ratings, data and analysis from MSCI ESG Research LLC are also used in the construction of the MSCI ESG Indexes. MSCI ESG Research LLC is a Registered Investment Adviser under the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 and a subsidiary of MSCI Inc. Environmental, social, and governance (ESG) news and investment research brought to you weekly covering major market trends and new research insights. With topics ranging from climate impact on investment portfolios, corporate actions, trending investment topics, and emerging ESG issues, host Matt Moscardi of MSCI ESG Research walk through the latest news and research that is top of mind for MSCI ESG Research clients and partners. MSCI ESG Research products and services are provided by MSCI ESG Research LLC, and are designed to provide in-depth research, ratings and analysis of environmental, social and governance-related business practices to companies worldwide. 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MSCI ESG Research LLC is a Registered Investment Adviser under the Investment Advisers Act of 1940 and a subsidiary of MSCI Inc. episodic MSCI ESG Research LLC matt.moscardi@msci.com no Environmental, social, governance, ESG, sustainability, SRI, investment, portfolio, news, research, green, climate, impact, investing, market, analysis, trends, MSCI, responsible, factor, integration, index, long-term, universal, values, positive, negative, screen, water, human capital, fraud, accident, event, risk, weather, scenario, analytics, adapt, global, ACWI, big data, AI, artificial, intelligence, pay, audit, merger, IPO, energy, cleantech, solar, wind, utilities, pollution, toxic, controversy, performance, opportunity, clean, engagement, shareholder, alpha, beta, 101, corporate, mission, decision, allocation, carbon, emissions, natural, capital, stress, renewable, labor, executive, product, liability, privacy, data, security, stakeholder, board, ownership, accounting, corruption, ethics, business, demand, disruption, supply, evolve, leader, laggard, exposure, management, material, relevant, assessment, ratings, wealth, advisor, millennial, PRI, assets, revenue, cash, sovereign, returns, emerging, align, religious, outcome, regulatory, demographic, technology, tech, sustainable, controversial, beliefs, solution, diversity, gender, women full Welcome to the MSCI ESG Research Podcast, ESG Now MSCI ESG Research LLC Welcome to the first episode of ESG Now, a podcast series from the analysts at MSCI ESG Research. Environmental, social, and governance investing related news, research, and insights. The MSCI ESG Research podcast series, ESG Now, officially launches soon. In this teaser episode, one of the hosts, Matt Moscardi, asks his family what they think he does for work exactly (before turning to an expert to get a real answer). Environmental, social, and governance investing related news, research, and insights. The MSCI ESG Research podcast series, ESG Now, officially launches soon. In this teaser episode, one of the hosts, Matt Moscardi, asks his family what they think he does for work exactly (before turning to an expert to get a real answer). Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep000.mp3 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:06:30 no full Where should we even start? 2018 ESG Trends redux MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we dive right in with Linda-Eling Lee, looking at the big 2018 trends in ESG Environmental, social, and governance investing related news, research, and trends. In this episode, we start at the beginning... of 2018. We revisit our conversation with Linda-Eling Lee from January as she walks us through the major ESG trends of this year. Emerging markets (1:48), carbon and asset allocation (4:10), fixed income and ESG (6:30), how much disclosure matters, or does it (9:28), and the Year of the Human (12:49) are discussed. Environmental, social, and governance investing related news, research, and trends. In this episode, we start at the beginning... of 2018. We revisit our conversation with Linda-Eling Lee from January as she walks us through the major ESG trends of this year. Emerging markets (1:48), carbon and asset allocation (4:10), fixed income and ESG (6:30), how much disclosure matters, or does it (9:28), and the Year of the Human (12:49) are discussed. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep001.mp3 Tue, 28 Aug 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:18:29 no full Indra Nooyi, and Why Diversity of Management Matters MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we focus on why Indra Nooyi stepping down matters Longtime PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi... or one of few women CEOs?... steps down. We talk to Meggin Thwing-Eastman about why that matters. 'Another female CEO done' (0:36), board diversity and employee productivity (1:44), diversity as an investment theme (3:40), more data (6:17), and a little game (9:47), all on the record. Longtime PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi... or one of few women CEOs?... steps down. We talk to Meggin Thwing-Eastman about why that matters. 'Another female CEO done' (0:36), board diversity and employee productivity (1:44), diversity as an investment theme (3:40), more data (6:17), and a little game (9:47), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep002.mp3 Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:01:00 EST 0:12:44 no full Back to School Special: Student Debt, Consumer Finance, and Robots MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we tackle the student debt ... or skills?... crisis Student debt is huge in the US, but as an investor, is it a good bet? The trend of consumer finance (1:44), Navient stands out (3:38), the reckoning is... robots?(5:35), and it might actually be a skills crisis (8:30), all on the record. Student debt is huge in the US, but as an investor, is it a good bet? The trend of consumer finance (1:44), Navient stands out (3:38), the reckoning is... robots?(5:35), and it might actually be a skills crisis (8:30), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep003.mp3 Tue, 4 Sep 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:12:40 no full When Genius Meets Governance MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we describe what happens when an immovable genius meets unstoppable governance Thinking of Tesla, how should an investor balance good governance with visionary brilliance? Atari and Tesla (0:22), checks and balances (2:32), overgovernance at Apple (4:13), Google's golden shares (5:38), and the Tesla "problem" (9:10), all on the record. Thinking of Tesla, how should an investor balance good governance with visionary brilliance? Atari and Tesla (0:22), checks and balances (2:32), overgovernance at Apple (4:13), Google's golden shares (5:38), and the Tesla "problem" (9:10), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep004.mp3 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:13:38 no full The Privacy of Things MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we find out what happens when the company that makes your dishwasher gets treated like a bank Could the data you provide your dishwasher some day be more valuable than the dishwasher? Internet of Things (0:00), hacking and Hackers (2:55), the GDPR (4:00), Cambridge Analytica (7:06), converging IoT and social media data (10:06), all on the record. Could the data you provide your dishwasher some day be more valuable than the dishwasher? Internet of Things (0:00), hacking and Hackers (2:55), the GDPR (4:00), Cambridge Analytica (7:06), converging IoT and social media data (10:06), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep005.mp3 Tue, 18 Sep 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:15:47 no full Join the Gang: Climate Edition MSCI ESG Research LLC In which investors turn to unlikely sources for advice on climate change before giving up and joining a gang A task force chaired by a billionaire has sent investors looking for advice on climate from unlikely sources that may just have them joining a gang. The TCFD (0:00), learning from... oil and gas? (4:00), don't forget renewables (6:32), to divest or engage (8:41), all on the record. A task force chaired by a billionaire has sent investors looking for advice on climate from unlikely sources that may just have them joining a gang. The TCFD (0:00), learning from... oil and gas? (4:00), don't forget renewables (6:32), to divest or engage (8:41), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep006.mp3 Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:15:54 no full A Short History of ESG: Part I MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we explore where ESG started For more than 3,000 years, you've been ESG investing, in four chapters. Chapter 1: Your religion is also your financial advisor (1:36), Chapter 2: Financial outcomes are secondary considerations (3:06), Chapter 3: We find out what you really know (4:51), Chapter 4: The milk spills (6:37), all on the record. For more than 3,000 years, you've been ESG investing, in four chapters. Chapter 1: Your religion is also your financial advisor (1:36), Chapter 2: Financial outcomes are secondary considerations (3:06), Chapter 3: We find out what you really know (4:51), Chapter 4: The milk spills (6:37), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep007.mp3 Fri, 5 Oct 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:11:59 no full A Short History of ESG: Part II MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we ask what a modern ESG investor does when soda meets marijuana Modern ESG investing is a choose your own adventure, especially when soda meets marijuana. Path 1: Invest your values (1:47), Path 2: Invest for the money (6:02), Path 3: Invest for impact (9:33), all on the record. Modern ESG investing is a choose your own adventure, especially when soda meets marijuana. Path 1: Invest your values (1:47), Path 2: Invest for the money (6:02), Path 3: Invest for impact (9:33), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep008.mp3 Mon, 15 Oct 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:16:27 no full Halloween is a Time for Zombies, Ghosts, and Frankenstein MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we ask which creepy monsters might lurk in your portfolio It's Halloween, and that means ghosts need not apply (2:55), shareholder value might get eaten by zombies (7:33), and your creation might be a monster (12:03), all on the record. It's Halloween, and that means ghosts need not apply (2:55), shareholder value might get eaten by zombies (7:33), and your creation might be a monster (12:03), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep009.mp3 Tue, 30 Oct 2018 00:00:00 EST 0:20:01 no full The Power of Peer Pressure on Pay MSCI ESG Research LLC In which, alliteration aside, a single rule protects the board, but not from votes Companies pick their peers, and it matters, and sometimes investors aren't happy (2:49), even if directors are protected (4:16), but not from shareholders with power (6:20), all on the record. Companies pick their peers, and it matters, and sometimes investors aren't happy (2:49), even if directors are protected (4:16), but not from shareholders with power (6:20), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep010.mp3 Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:13:25 no full Who Pays For Corruption? MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we find out the hidden cost of Cambodian blue jeans We all pay for corruption, maybe without knowing it (2:12), or maybe in ways that are obvious (3:48), but investors are finding out corruption isn't just an emerging market problem (7:04), all on the record. We all pay for corruption, maybe without knowing it (2:12), or maybe in ways that are obvious (3:48), but investors are finding out corruption isn't just an emerging market problem (7:04), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep011.mp3 Tue, 26 Feb 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:14:06 no full The ESG Weekly: Nordea and Toilet Paper on Week of March 3 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we launch our weekly lookback through an ESG lens Two stories with ESG glasses: Nordea and money laundering (3:48), and the toilet paper conundrum (7:00), all on the record. Two stories with ESG glasses: Nordea and money laundering (3:48), and the toilet paper conundrum (7:00), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep012.mp3 Fri, 08 Mar 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:12:05 no full The ESG Weekly: Boeing and Ride Shares on the Week of March 10 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Boeing and the Uber/Lyft IPOs feature in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories with ESG glasses: is the Boeing problem software, or automation (1:48), and how with the Uber and Lyft IPOs, one is not like the other (6:26), all on the record. Two stories with ESG glasses: is the Boeing problem software, or automation (1:48), and how with the Uber and Lyft IPOs, one is not like the other (6:26), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep013.mp3 Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:14:48 no full Leadership Crisis, or Crisis in Influence? MSCI ESG Research LLC In which investors need to tackle the corporate leadership crisis The cocktail of hyper transparency and societal change makes for vulnerable leaders (3:25), but predicting who's next may be a bridge too far (5:15), but investors have solutions to limit the pain (7:18), all on the record. The cocktail of hyper transparency and societal change makes for vulnerable leaders (3:25), but predicting who's next may be a bridge too far (5:15), but investors have solutions to limit the pain (7:18), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep014.mp3 Tue, 19 Mar 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:16:27 no full The ESG Weekly: Paul Ryan and Robots on the Week of March 17 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Fox Corp's Paul Ryan and robots splitting the workforce feature in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories with ESG glasses: is Paul Ryan on the board of Fox Corp a good idea (1:35), and how the next tech disruption might be social and not technological (3:25), all on the record. Two stories with ESG glasses: is Paul Ryan on the board of Fox Corp a good idea (1:35), and how the next tech disruption might be social and not technological (3:25), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep015.mp3 Fri, 22 Mar 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:12:57 no full The ESG Weekly: McDonald's AI play and Purdue settles on the Week of March 25 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which McDonald's goes AI vertical and Purdue settles an opioid bill as features in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories with ESG glasses: are the efficiency gains of AI at McDonald's worth the data risk (1:19), and what does it mean for Purdue to settle some opioid litigation for the industry(5:26), all on the record. Two stories with ESG glasses: are the efficiency gains of AI at McDonald's worth the data risk (1:19), and what does it mean for Purdue to settle some opioid litigation for the industry(5:26), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep016.mp3 Fri, 27 Mar 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:12:23 no full The ESG Weekly: Im(possible?) Burgers and Wells Fargo CEO Search on the Week of April 1 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Burger King goes high tech with Impossible Foods and Wells Fargo's CEO search is paying the piper featuring in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories with ESG glasses: what exactly is the investor angle for Burger King's Impossible Burger play (1:34), and what does it mean that Wells Fargo can't find a new CEO (4:16), all on the record. Two stories with ESG glasses: what exactly is the investor angle for Burger King's Impossible Burger play (1:34), and what does it mean that Wells Fargo can't find a new CEO (4:16), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep017.mp3 Fri, 05 Apr 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:11:50 no full The ESG Weekly: Disclosure is the Thing for Saudi Aramco and Social Media Becoming Tobacco on the Week of April 10 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Saudi Aramco's disclosure might matter more and social media is on a slow train to tobaccoville featuring in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories with ESG glasses: Saudi Aramco may be oversubscribed, but the disclosure might be the bigger deal (0:47), and the regulators are coming for social media in the UK (4:28), all on the record. Two stories with ESG glasses: Saudi Aramco may be oversubscribed, but the disclosure might be the bigger deal (0:47), and the regulators are coming for social media in the UK (4:28), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep018.mp3 Fri, 12 Apr 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:11:31 no full The ESG Weekly: Amazon Employees Form a (Shareholder) Union and Jack Ma's 996 Blessing on the Week of April 15 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Amazon employees go shareholder activist over climate change and Jack Ma calls working 12 hour days a blessing in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories with ESG glasses: Amazon employees are turning to shareholder activism to change the company (1:27), and did Jack Ma poke a sleeping employee giant by calling 12 hour work days a blessing (5:47), all on the record. Two stories with ESG glasses: Amazon employees are turning to shareholder activism to change the company (1:27), and did Jack Ma poke a sleeping employee giant by calling 12 hour work days a blessing (5:47), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep019.mp3 Thu, 18 Apr 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:12:32 no full The ESG Weekly: Umicore and the Cobalt Problem on the Week of April 22 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Umicore loses to cheap cobalt in the week in review through an ESG lens One story this week with ESG glasses: Umicore saw its earnings drop and blamed undercutting competition for cobalt (0:37), but the problem might be child labor at artisinal mines (2:12), all on the record. One story this week with ESG glasses: Umicore saw its earnings drop and blamed undercutting competition for cobalt (0:37), but the problem might be child labor at artisinal mines (2:12), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep020.mp3 Fri, 26 Apr 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:10:58 no full The Problems with ESG MSCI ESG Research LLC In which we tell the story of ESG detractors today ESG critics and detractors might be right as we look at three big criticisms one by one: there's not enough good data (2:43), there's too much useles data (7:32), and the ESG rating built from the data are meaningless (11:07), all on the record. ESG critics and detractors might be right as we look at three big criticisms one by one: there's not enough good data (2:43), there's too much useles data (7:32), and the ESG rating built from the data are meaningless (11:07), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep021.mp3 Tue, 30 Apr 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:18:56 no full The ESG Weekly: Norsk Hydro's NASA Fraud and Marriot Goes Gig Economy on the Week of April 29 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which NASA gets paid by Norsk and Marriott buys some gig innovation in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Norsk Hydro's subsidiary pays NASA for false metal testing (0:58) and Marriott looks to AirBnB for inspiration (7:36), all on the record. Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Norsk Hydro's subsidiary pays NASA for false metal testing (0:58) and Marriott looks to AirBnB for inspiration (7:36), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep022.mp3 Fri, 02 May 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:13:52 no full The ESG Weekly: Is It Disruption Week? Swine Fever and iBuying on the Week of May 6 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which swine fever shifts the pork market and Zillow goes at iBuying in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories this week with ESG glasses: swine fever is disrupting the global pork market (0:44) and Zillow targets inefficiency with iBuying (7:15), all on the record. Two stories this week with ESG glasses: swine fever is disrupting the global pork market (0:44) and Zillow targets inefficiency with iBuying (7:15), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep023.mp3 Fri, 09 May 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:12:54 no full The ESG Weekly: Is There an ESG Angle on Trade Wars, and Amazon's Four-Legged Stool on the Week of May 13 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which the US-China trade war has a weird ESG twist and Amazon's investing in robot packaging in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories this week with ESG glasses: the US-China trade war has a weird ESG twist (0:45) and Amazon's robot boxing investment (5:45), all on the record. Two stories this week with ESG glasses: the US-China trade war has a weird ESG twist (0:45) and Amazon's robot boxing investment (5:45), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep024.mp3 Fri, 16 May 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:12:22 no full The ESG Weekly: McDonald's #MeToo moment and Overstock.com's Bitcoin play on the Week of May 20 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which McDonald's contends with a discrimination lawsuit and Overstock.com's CEO contends with fallback from his stock sale in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories this week with ESG glasses: McDonald's contends with a discrimination lawsuit (0:47) and Overstock.com's CEO contends with fallback from his stock sale (5:41), all on the record. Two stories this week with ESG glasses: McDonald's contends with a discrimination lawsuit (0:47) and Overstock.com's CEO contends with fallback from his stock sale (5:41), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep025.mp3 Fri, 23 May 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:12:42 no full The ESG Weekly: Renault/Fiat and Malaysia Just Says "No" to Your Recycling on the Week of May 27 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Renault/Fiat could be confusing and Malaysia takes a stand on recycling in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Renault/Fiat could end up confusing investors (0:42) and Malaysia rethinks its recycling strategy (6:26), all on the record. Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Renault/Fiat could end up confusing investors (0:42) and Malaysia rethinks its recycling strategy (6:26), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep026.mp3 Fri, 31 May 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:14:05 no full The ESG Weekly: Corruption in China and Health Care Equipment on the Week of June 3 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which GE, Siemens, and Philips have corruption problems in China in the week in review through an ESG lens One story this week with ESG glasses: GE, Siemens, and Philips get caught in a corruption scandal in China, so who cares about it most? (0:42), all on the record. One story this week with ESG glasses: GE, Siemens, and Philips get caught in a corruption scandal in China, so who cares about it most? (0:42), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep027.mp3 Fri, 07 June 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:14:56 no full The ESG Weekly: Raytheon/UTC and Ocado's Vertical Farm Play on the Week of June 10 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Raytheon/UTC could merge and Ocado plays in vertical farming in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Raytheon/UTC could have a human capital problem (1:11), and Ocado's vertical farm is a sustainability love story (8:25), all on the record. Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Raytheon/UTC could have a human capital problem (1:11), and Ocado's vertical farm is a sustainability love story (8:25), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep028.mp3 Fri, 14 June 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:16:01 no full The ESG Weekly: Facebook's Libra and the Trans Mountain Pipeline on the Week of June 17 MSCI ESG Research LLC In which Facebook announces a game changer(?) crypto and the Trans Mountain oil sands pipeline is a "go" in the week in review through an ESG lens Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Facebook announces its crypto solution in Libra (0:33), and Canada's Trans Mountain pipeline is approved (8:28), all on the record. Two stories this week with ESG glasses: Facebook announces its crypto solution in Libra (0:33), and Canada's Trans Mountain pipeline is approved (8:28), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep029.mp3 Fri, 21 June 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:16:25 no full Tomorrow's Labor Solution Is... Unions? MSCI ESG Research LLC In which a 300 year old labor tool is getting a modern twist - but is it a good thing? Karl Marx's biggest meme was a labor innovation (2:42), but also an investor problem (4:48), but someone should tell South Korea (6:42) because the tech model has labor problems (11:00) and Jack Ma and Richard Liu poked the bear (13:11), all on the record. Karl Marx's biggest meme was a labor innovation (2:42), but also an investor problem (4:48), but someone should tell South Korea (6:42) because the tech model has labor problems (11:00) and Jack Ma and Richard Liu poked the bear (13:11), all on the record. Apple Podcasts]]>. http://esgpodcast.msci.com/ep030.mp3 Tue, 25 June 2019 00:00:00 EST 0:22:53 no